Very good when you arrived, the tones were already very warm. when you first arrived, you didn’t realize that we were talking about VaultZ, and when you said “ah talk about the vaultz, don’t touch the vaultz”. And I described something like, “ah if cryptoqueen also speaks, then I can go, in a bit controversial”. Remember?
I am glad you are interested in the community and what happens here is what happens in an unpleasant way it was not because you are new or because you were against my proposal. it’s because I was already arguing with Vandar, monobody and God … pretty much everyone. occasionally someone wrote something.
When I am arguing with most people in the community and that even new users write without asking me what I was feeling a terrible and understood parts of others as if my intent was to steal a VaultZ, you realize that something is not it goes. although there are no direct insults to me, the conversation had a very controversial tone and I was just talking against multiple people.
We discussed the members who spent 2 years here together and although I am wrong on a silly topic or something, I respect my other side because I am a person who has dedicated energy and time to this project. if you run today and you can meet the other members of the community it is also thanks to me. if you have a wallet it is also thanks to me, if you have a poker site it is also thanks to me.
So yes, I felt attacked by everyone together and also by new ones like you instead of wondering why I thought so they simply said “no, that no!”. as I explained, that conversation was already very heated and so you just wanted to help the other members. It’s ok. I don’t condemn you. but it is like throwing gas on the fire, a fire that has grown bigger. it happens, it’s normal. You’re a new member and it’s certainly not your fault.
What I thought I was treated differently from is a component that has been around since I was there. (Until then I had not mentioned the choice of managers or the new website). but it is normal for adrenaline to sell if I have to deal with more than one user at a time with my language limitations, I am an elderly user and I have to deal more constructively. this is what I contested.
I would have listened if they said “hey Fox …” because I wouldn’t have felt attached. What is true is that we could have avoided this discussion on the main page of the channel, and perhaps had a comparison in private. but everything quickly degenerated and I’m sorry for this …
There were no insults on my part. I said that a system that does not allow you to apply for the position of manager, is dictatorship, never said to vandar directly “you are a dictator”, and when I was talking and I said that if people don’t get a personal idea and he follows without thinking, he is a dog. Monobody felt pulled in the middle, he thought that I had told him directly “dog” and even while the others continued to speak I immediately replied to monobody that I had not said “dog” but that the people who follow without thinking are dogs . Then in a slightly unpleasant way maybe I added that if he felt pulled in the middle I couldn’t do anything about it. But the discussion was already very hot and the tones were now quarreling and not arguing.
Having said that, I replied because when you arrived I ignored you in an unpleasant and superior way. forgive me, but you came at the wrong time, sorry for this.
I’m sorry to have continued this discussion in the main channel in front of new members like you. if there had been differences and I felt attacked I could have solved it in private with the person concerned, I’m sorry if someone felt offended as a monobody (for the dog) or if new people in the community understood that vandar is a dictator , I did not say this and I do not believe it (what I started to tell him that every proposal was born with some imperfections, like his “hydra” where it was not possible to apply to be a manager, but I voted yes because there support even if there is an imperfection in this community, everything can improve and if in my proposal too much money was the problem, I had already said to God (find above the message): If the problem is too much money, vote yes and we will make a new vote to choose how much to give to the managers. If I am not mistaken I said to “God” we will vote from 1 to 10, sorry if I have given too little importance to this and I have made few choices … even if I have not been insulted there are things that hurt me or asking the community to try it (message to monobody and after replying to God that we would vote). Go up and read my tone, even if the English is not perfect you can see that I was calm and I was just asking to think, you can go to read my tone:
"Please do a try, if it doesn’t work, or some money spent by someone will not bring benefits I put them! I’m sure the managers will want to try so well towards the community that they will work 5 times better. "
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"I would continue to support the project and the choice of the community always as I have shown in other votes. but I hope someone understands what I’m trying to say. in the end, trying can only bring us hope and a new energy. "
And to my answers came phrases that hurt me even if inside there was no insult, phrases like this:
“I see that you are trying to use the argument” hey we have been at 1 sats now, and we could even go lower with the 0.1 steps in some exchanges “spreading panic in order to push people to make a decision.”
I sincerely tell you that you are new that you may not know, The problem of the price that has come down has always been a very serious thing for me, it was my motivation for which I thought it was better to get to know us and that a more united group would bring benefit to the currency which was quite a lot that was suffering on the price. It was a concern that we also faced during the Rome meeting, we discussed the fact that if we get out of some exchage it’s a tragedy. is to say: “guys we have to invent something” and for me this is the purpose of meetings.
I also wrote if the fear is that managers steal, I put all the guarantee. 34 million or more and I pledged to deposit them by the first of July this because I think that if we don’t do something out of fear, we risk never doing anything. In my head it is impossible for managers to steal in the next vote, as I said above now the community is still small and the people who are here are moved out of devotion to the project. In my opinion, managers would only be encouraged to impress the community with their work.
This is my idea, right or wrong, I presented it thinking about the community, I thought it believing that it could give a big push to btcz. it was never my intent to scare the community or try to control it. We have always had this concern since the first meeting and whoever came to Rome is a witness to me and will be able to confirm it to you!
What I tried to explain in the previous message is that I didn’t find myself in front of a friend or a partner, this hurt me and I started to have a worse tone for this idea that had been presented to me. It is true that it is not an insult, but I swear to you that only the fact that he could have thought of me like that, really hurt me. From there you can see that my tone has also changed.
I swear to you that it hurt me like a brother telling you that you’re trying to scare mom, to do what you want, instead of seeing a worried brother trying to get mom to do something he thinks might help the family.
now that I am more relaxed I can speak to you with my heart: when I said to guarantee, I really thought of finding a way to buy by July the amount of money that was needed to guarantee all the money given to managers, when I said to “God” we will make a new vote to know how much to give to managers, I really thought that even if the highest figure of this proposal would have won, I myself would have republished a new vote with many more choices this time because my proposal was born to help the community and don’t damage it.!
So when you hear such things they hurt you even if they are not insults. When you think so too and you are willing to put your money there only to raise a fear for you stupid and try some new solution, when you too will be in my place in a couple of years, you will understand why this has hurt me so much, in confronting him I have not found the brother and the companion that I thought I had here. And from there, without rules I shot everything I had, not for the proposal but for the way he described me, for the consideration he had of me. You can then imagine how things degenerate.
but now it has happened, I can’t do anything else, if not pretend not to think about it. The thing is closed for me and I hope everyone is calm in the community today. I left the community for this, because it hurt me to have been attacked by a brother and also a bit to self punish myself for my mistakes, for offending some components with my own tones and for putting the new ones in a state of instability, making this crisis public and performing in the main channel. 
I put myself aside above all to keep everyone in tune in the community, if I step aside it brings benefit to the community I do it … I’m not here to scare her or make her unstable. This is the reason.
And also because I have too much money invested in btcz, I can’t allow myself to go even further. Joke 
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the community needs to be together, united and in tune and if others have a better relationship and do not see themselves as a threat, then they will do a better job working together.
I will not open other proposals and I will no longer take part in the discussions, I think this will be enough. The important here in my opinion is that the group is as homogeneous as possible.
I will always cheer for btcz and wish our project to really find its way. 
I send you a kiss
because I m someone who has devoted energy and time to this project. and if you have a meeting today and you can meet the other members it’s also thanks to me. if you will have a ledger it’s also thanks to me, if you have a poker website, it’s also thanks to me. if you don’t carry it it is because as I explained the weather was very hot and you just wanted help the other components. It is ok. I don’t condemn you. but it’s like throwing gasoline on the fire, a fire that then got worse.it happens, it’s normal. (I didn’t even mention the choice of managers or the new website in that moment). but it’s normal that the adrenaline goes up if I have to argue that all different people instead of confronting me in a constructive way with another member. that’s what I disputed. I would have listened if they had said “hey fox…” it wasn’t like that. then maybe it’s true I could avoid this discussion on the main page, and maybe write it in private. but everything degenerated quickly and I’m sorry about that…
sorry for that. I’m sorry for continuing this discussion in the main channel in front of new members like you. if there were divergent I could have solved it in private and I’m sorry even if someone felt offended as a monobody (for the dog) or if people new like new understanded that vandar is a dictator, i didnt say and i dont think this (what i started to say to him that every proposal born whit somenthing not ready, like his hydra where was not possible apply for the manager and where i voted yes, and everything can come better, and if in my proposal the money were the problem need only put less 10m and after we voted 1). and then with the discussion that also caught fire the ways in which things are said catch fire…